Modified Spells

[bartleby]

Charm person's duration being fixed per pnp is good to see; it can now be used for RP and not merely a few rounds of combat. I specificly recall using it on Exodus on a PC but having to follow it up with some very hurried actions because I knew the duration by default was so brief in nwn2 vanilla... by the time you finish typing out a suggestion for example, the spell is gone!

The duration may be fixed, but still cannot use on freindly/neutral PC's or NPC's. Would be nice if that could somehow be fixed.

I think you should be able to change the spells targeting via the spells.2da there should be a targeting entry some where in there? If thats the case shoudl be a very easy fix.

[Riotnrrd]

The duration may be fixed, but still cannot use on freindly/neutral PC's or NPC's. Would be nice if that could somehow be fixed.

AL: Why is this the case, and what can we do to fix it?

[DMyles]

would it be possible to remove the thing that only lets you summon one creature at a time? what is the cannon on this?

[AcadiusLost]

Bartleby wrote the code for that a long time back now (9 months or something?) and it keeps getting passed between tech assistants and not getting into the final haks for one reason or another. We'll try to get it in properly with this next batch of new/fixed spells.

[Riotnrrd]

House purchase finished. Moved in. Internets scheduled for installation Sat morning.

Maybe will have time to review this soon...

[Ithildur]

On a similar note, what about Dominate or Charm monster spell durations? Especially Dominate, as that is intended in PnP as more a RP spell than a combat spell anyway iirc.

Don't have source info in front of me... can you advise on what PnP durations of above spells are, compared to NWN2?

Dominate Person
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 4, Sor/Wiz 5
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 round
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One humanoid
Duration: One day/level
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes


Charm Monster
Enchantment (Charm) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4
Target: One living creature
Duration: One day/level

Long durations, eh? Definitely meant for RP and not mere one combat encounter. I never got to play a high lvl caster in alfa1 and don't know for sure but I'd imagine the durations were tweaked a bit.

[Aelred]

Dominate Person
12 seconds + 6 seconds / 3 Caster Levels

Dominate Monster
3 minutes + 1 minute / Level

Dominate Animal
18 seconds, + 6 seconds / Level

Charm Person
12 seconds + 6 seconds / 3 levels
As of the 1.05 patch charmed enemies will no longer defend the caster but merely become neutral to them for the duration of the spell. While the spell is considered hostile for invisibility purposes, the monster it is cast at will not consider it a hostile spell.

Charm Monster
18 seconds + 6 seconds / 2 Levels

Charm Monster, Mass
1 Round/Level

Charm (Invocation)
3 + 1 rounds /2 class levels
This ability works similarly to the 4th level wizard/sorcerer spell Charm Monster. Contrary to the ability description multiple enemies can be charmed by this ability at the same time.

[Ithildur]

Ah, right, the other spells.

Pnp Dominate Monster, same duration as Dominate Person, 1 day/lvl

PnP Dominate Animal, 1 rnd/lvl

PnP Mass Charm Monster, as Charm Monster, 1 day/lvl

PnP Charm Person, 1 hour/lvl

[Riotnrrd]

Question:
I'd like to consider removing spell visual effects from the most egregious offenders, like PFE.

What spells have annoying persistent effects that probably shouldnt be there?

Protection from Alighnment
Shield
Endure Elements

[AcadiusLost]

Mage Armor sparklies? They're less obtrusive than most, but I don't believe that one is supposed to be visible.

[Mick]

I think Shield of Faith is the one that makes you look like a light bulb. Fairly annoying.

[furtivefigure]

Have you considered implementing this: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=NW ... tail&id=12 ?

On the subject of spells, this looks pretty cool as well: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=NW ... tail&id=19

[DMyles]

Somebody might want to take a look at the druid spell flame weapon. In my experience the icon indicating a buff lasts the right duration but the flames you see on your weapon and the damage they do seem to last a lot longer.

Nominated for spell effects removal:

Protection form alignment
Shield of Faith
Nightshield
Barkskin
Stoneskin
Entropic Shield

[Riotnrrd]

Have you considered implementing this: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=NW ... tail&id=12 ?

Might be a good place to start, thanks.

On the subject of spells, this looks pretty cool as well: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=NW ... tail&id=19

I'd be wary of doing this... adding more light sources might cause a significant performance hit, shadows and the like... AL?

[HEEGZ]

Somebody might want to take a look at the druid spell flame weapon. In my experience the icon indicating a buff lasts the right duration but the flames you see on your weapon and the damage they do seem to last a lot longer.

Nominated for spell effects removal:

Protection form alignment
Shield of Faith
Nightshield
Barkskin
Stoneskin
Entropic Shield

Why would you want to remove the vfx for Barkskin and Stoneskin?