Integrating Heed's PC Tools

New models, textures, & integration of 3rd party content.

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Integrating Heed's PC Tools

Post by AcadiusLost »

I had a bit of tinkering with this last night, seems like a nice replacement for most of the functions we had in the emote ball under NWN1, and then some besides.

I'd like to wrap it up with the initial CC hak(s) for the ACR update release- but it certainly seems like an odd fit to bundle into an "alfa_textures" hak.

Were we leaning towards more, smaller haks, over a few, large ones?

Would it be better to just make people download and use the hak off the vault, or to bundle the resources into an ALFA hak that players get from us? With the test textures hak, I've tried to keep everything documented so credit is recorded for those who developed the content, but I'm not sure where things sit in terms of content "ownership", or whether this is agreeable to the producers of the content. Is it generally understood that vault content is free to be tossed into meta-haks, tweaked, modified, etc?

My instinct is so long as it's credited, and no one is making money off it, all should be kosher, but I could be wrong- and if so, it's something we should address before we get carried away distributing haks widely.

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Post by ç i p h é r »

I think we should bundle it in with a GUI hak. We'll no doubt have our own GUI edits as well, which in some cases overlap, so a consolidated version will certainly be needed, especially for core tools like this. DMs rely on PCs making skill checks so I don't think we can just recommend it.
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Post by Grand Fromage »

We've always grabbed Vault content and integrated it into haks, and I'm pretty sure anyone uploading stuff to the public like that is implicitly agreeing to let people use it as they wish. I don't see the problem with bundling it with our own stuff.
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Post by AcadiusLost »

Got things merged with our ALFA UI this morning, bundled with the Heed's (DMFI-compatible) hak and called it "alfa_gui01.hak".

If anyone wants to test it out, it's uploaded here:
http://www.alandfaraway.org/downloads/N ... _gui01.rar

Whatever mod it's associated with will need the heed's erf imported as well, that's on the vault for now, I'll include it with the ALFA ACR Update erfs when we release those (hopefully soon).
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Post by Castano »

I believe bioware (or whoever owns the game now) may own any content created by the toolset, per the EULA. (if it reads the same as NWN1). If it was not created by the toolset, then that may be a different issue.

Regardless, if the content is posted by its owner for download, I would argue there is a license to use it, including to modify it. (it would defeat the purpose of posting it if you couldn't)
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