OOC spell graphical effects, should they be removed?

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Should these effects be removed?

1) Yes, remove them all.
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2) No, they should all stay and be treated as being IC information.
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3) No, they should all stay and be treated as being OOC information.
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4) Only remove certain spells (please explain which ones bellow), and treat all remaining effects as IC.
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5) Only remove certain spells (please explain which ones bellow), and treat all remaining effects as OOC.
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Ronan wrote:After walking into a room full of PCs who will likely try to kill my PC at some point and having them all meta the visual spells on my PC (which included stoneskin), I suddenly feel more strongly about this topic ;) Its really a more important topic to adventuring mages, who need these buffs to survive.
Removing the VFX isn't going to help there. They can see all your buffs in your description anyway. ;)
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*coughs* for the sake of argument. I dont believe Drow do see other than Black and White nor do Dwarves...Its what allows them to see underground.

But it is a game afterall.
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Hrm, I recall reading that drow see the heat with their eyes and are attuned to echoes, though won´t start arguing what colour heat is supposed to be.
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NickD wrote:Removing the VFX isn't going to help there. They can see all your buffs in your description anyway. ;)
Yes, but they (hopefully if they got into alfa?) won't treat that as IC information.
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......

If drow saw nothing but black and white.. then why would they have colorful dancing light orbs all over their city... and what about when they cast faerie fire on things and see a purplish glow... and what about reading on the drow and them noticing colors in narration?

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Post by ç i p h é r »

They can see all your buffs in your description anyway
There's a patch for that (published a while ago on the vault). I believe it's nothing more than a big black strip that overlays the effects (overrides some panel in the GUI)...
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Killthorne wrote:......

If drow saw nothing but black and white.. then why would they have colorful dancing light orbs all over their city... and what about when they cast faerie fire on things and see a purplish glow... and what about reading on the drow and them noticing colors in narration?

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They might only see certain ranges in the frequency spectrum...I have vague recollections about their vision being different too in the Salvatore books, although, that could be nothing more than literary freedom. I don't think I've seen anything about vision (aside from Darkvision) in the PHB or FRCS.
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If drow saw nothing but black and white.. then why would they have colorful dancing light orbs all over their city... and what about when they cast faerie fire on things and see a purplish glow... and what about reading on the drow and them noticing colors in narration?
Thats why its a fantasy game I imagine. Where the imagination is much nicer than trying to make something "real".

I was just going off the description of the darkvision spell which states black and white and transfering that to the Drow and Dwarven darkvision ability.

Actually i prefer a world with colorful lights and faerie fires being cast on dark clothed figures in a subterranean environment so that they carry a purplich glow and are therefore able to be seen properly. As for the glowey lights I imagine different color lights give off a different heat signature..As for the drow descriptions of colors without having one in front of me i would imagine that they have there own unique color spectrum within Black and White..Just idears nothing written in stone :wink:

But back to what started this offshooot of the OP. Does that effect sight of stoneskin..?
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They can see the purplish glow because that is using their normal vision.

The black and white is only whilst they are in darkness -- when there is light they use normal vision. (obviously too much light hurts their eyes).
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When it's pitch black they see darkvision thorugh black and white, which can be used in concordance with there normal vision. If they have a light that goes out 30 feet they can see in color in that 30 feet and black and white for the next 30 feet.
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Vendrin wrote:When it's pitch black they see darkvision thorugh black and white, which can be used in concordance with there normal vision. If they have a light that goes out 30 feet they can see in color in that 30 feet and black and white for the next 30 feet.
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Fionn wrote:
Vendrin wrote:When it's pitch black they see darkvision thorugh black and white, which can be used in concordance with there normal vision. If they have a light that goes out 30 feet they can see in color in that 30 feet and black and white for the next 30 feet.
99% certain any nearby light source kills darkvision. If not, it certainly would in my house ;)
Dungeon Master's Guide wrote: THe presence of light does not spoil darkvision. If a character has darkvision with a 60 foot range and he stands within a 20 foot radius of light, the character can see normally in the light and 30 feet beyond the light because of his darkvision.
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Post by Seva »

Get rid of them all ESPECIALLY barkskin and stoneskin. I like to see my character how I made em not all brown and grey. Especially since your skin doesn't turn to wood or stone at all. Leaving them on is munchkin.
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Seasons Greetings..!! :oops: !!
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