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Oh wait, wrong wax.

I mean,
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And that's not sunscreen! That's "sunless tanner" -- nothin' like lookin' like ya belong on the Simpsons, but at least there'll be some contrast! :eek:



More to the point of this little rant, though, (being that no one seems to have caught on to what I was doing there) is notice how entirely acceptable it seems to be for a man to refuse to maintain his appearance (I guess shaving about a square foot and a half counts as all one should have to do?), while women who refuse to (painfully) yank out hair over the lip or on the legs, or refuse to wear makeup, or have short nails, or have non-'girly' hair styles get classified as "hairypitted-rightwing-cantgetlaidcozimugly-feminist" (Thankyou, Dorn, for illustrating exactly how cruel people can be. Of course, I would point out that the multiple-word adjective gets hyphenated, and not the noun they modify, and that feminism is usually a left-winged philosophy [3 waves and dozens of philosophies per wave, though; there're counterexamples]).

It is in the issue of the presentation of the body that you'll find the sexism originally inquired about by this thread and the genuinely differing standards with negative consequences to a party, which is something that the discussion of the law in the original post will draw ungodly amounts of attention to. It is something that is much more recognizable, carries a stronger "knee-jerk" response, can easily draw attention from another discussion, and makes a discussion like "Is it bad to tell people to cover up parts they usually cover up anyway?" seem pretty moot, imho. Essentially what I say is that if you want to fight for equality, NickD, either find hairy legs sexy or put an equal amount of effort into your own presentation. You'll do much more good like that. ;)
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god Zelk is now becoming White Warlock. TL;DR ;)
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Waxing creates higher sensitivity in the areas waxed. That is all I have to say kthxbai.
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FanaticusIncendi wrote:Waxing creates higher sensitivity in the areas waxed. That is all I have to say kthxbai.
Your mom. That is all I have to say kthxbai.
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Zelknolf wrote:[img]More to the point of this little rant, though, (being that no one seems to have caught on to what I was doing there) is notice how entirely acceptable it seems to be for a man to refuse to maintain his appearance (I guess shaving about a square foot and a half counts as all one should have to do?), while women who refuse to (painfully) yank out hair over the lip or on the legs, or refuse to wear makeup, or have short nails, or have non-'girly' hair styles get classified as "hairypitted-rightwing-cantgetlaidcozimugly-feminist" (Thankyou, Dorn, for illustrating exactly how cruel people can be. Of course, I would point out that the multiple-word adjective gets hyphenated, and not the noun they modify, and that feminism is usually a left-winged philosophy [3 waves and dozens of philosophies per wave, though; there're counterexamples]).

It is in the issue of the presentation of the body that you'll find the sexism originally inquired about by this thread and the genuinely differing standards with negative consequences to a party, which is something that the discussion of the law in the original post will draw ungodly amounts of attention to. It is something that is much more recognizable, carries a stronger "knee-jerk" response, can easily draw attention from another discussion, and makes a discussion like "Is it bad to tell people to cover up parts they usually cover up anyway?" seem pretty moot, imho. Essentially what I say is that if you want to fight for equality, NickD, either find hairy legs sexy or put an equal amount of effort into your own presentation. You'll do much more good like that. ;)
What are you talking about?! I shave my face, I shave my head and I pluck my nose and ear hairs (bloody painful!), I trim my nails and I'd wear deoderant if I wasn't allergic to it. I don't expect women to pluck their leg hairs - a shave is good enough. And I don't care if a woman has short nails and you can shave your head too for all I care. A bit of makeup is nice, but only a little bit. Facial hair on a woman isn't very attractive though, but I can live with it as long as it is short and downy... and bleached if it's dark hair.

But anyway, you're stereotyping me! I may like a woman to make themselves presentable, but I don't expect anything too insane.

And there are plenty of men who go to extremes in their personal presentation, just because women expect them to. Metrosexuals n'all. I worked with a room full of them when I was put in the sales department in my last job. But that's not for me, and I have to accept that women who like that kind of thing are not for me either.



In other news, Boobs on Bikes went on ahead today. I was a bit busy and couldn't go though...
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The only dudes who keep their chest clean are those who are either paid for the look (models, strippers, etc) and those who do it out of need (athletes of various types). The rest have just bought into the look they see in the movies and are just being silly. Fighting trim is all that's needed ;)

Fashion tip #12:

Unless you have a 4 or 6 pack... don't even think of shaving your chest cause women will giggle.
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Lusipher wrote:god Zelk is now becoming White Warlock. TL;DR ;)
2 short paragraphs dude, your attention span is waning rapidly.
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re: danjubus,
I didn't claim to be better than anyone else on account of being a journalist, being old, or any other achievement on par with acquiring a GED. Very non-WW. :P


re: NickD
re: first part, sure. It's something. I see how hard it is to do that and how much time goes into it. It's not equal (unless you're secretly part yeti, but I wouldn't believe that. You're not all that fuzzy, *points to pic*) which was/is my point.

re: second part, nope: I'm stereotyping Dorn, but he stereotyped me; I claim righteous revenge! (and it's mighty righteous!) and I'm with you on the "everyone should put forth effort and no one should be crazy" point -- I'd rather have a world full of sexy groomed people than a world full of ugly disheveled people. My rants were more about illustrating an inequality than giving genuine advice.

re: third part, yeah, resigning to noninvolvement and accepting only being appealing to a certain sort is cool, but you did start a conversation trying to use gender struggles as an excuse to see boobies in public. :P


re: MK
I did advise that there be working out and a darker skin tone involved! I wouldn't tell a dude to defuzz the chest without getting buff, too (in multiple senses, no less!) and trying to play up the contrast the musculature would provide, 'cuz defuzzing does indeed provoke massive quantities of giggling when it is done without at least pectoral definition and a flat stomach, if not distinct abs. (on the realistic advice side o' things)
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Zelknolf wrote:re: NickD
re: first part, sure. It's something. I see how hard it is to do that and how much time goes into it. It's not equal (unless you're secretly part yeti, but I wouldn't believe that. You're not all that fuzzy, *points to pic*) which was/is my point.
Not equal to who? I see smelly, hairy unmade up women. I'm sure I spend more personal grooming time than them. I know guys who spend half an hour on their hair, just to get the perfectly untidy look. I see more guys than chicks in the gym, trying to get those abs that you like so much. It's all relative. It's hardly my fault that I'm so naturally sexy that I don't need much preparation time!

re: second part, nope: I'm stereotyping Dorn, but he stereotyped me; I claim righteous revenge! (and it's mighty righteous!) and I'm with you on the "everyone should put forth effort and no one should be crazy" point -- I'd rather have a world full of sexy groomed people than a world full of ugly disheveled people. My rants were more about illustrating an inequality than giving genuine advice.
Dorn is Australian, that's just how they are.

re: third part, yeah, resigning to noninvolvement and accepting only being appealing to a certain sort is cool, but you did start a conversation trying to use gender struggles as an excuse to see boobies in public. :P
It was not! That was not my intention at all! I used it as an excuse to show how much better New Zealand is than Australia!

WARNING! This Link Contains A Link That Contains A Video That Contains Fun Bags!

Apparently around 100,000 went to go see the 30 pairs of boobs, so I probably wouldn't have seen anything. Better to pay $20 to go to a strip club.




Uh, Zelknolf, you've been around long enough that I should know who you are, but I can't say I remember seeing you around before a monthish or two ago... Name change?
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LOL, how many strippers did they hire for the "parade" anyway? 100,000 folks lined up for that? Hah! Long winters eh? Btw, a friend of mine suggested the dark-haired American chickie in the lead car is actually a pr0n star.

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MorbidKate wrote:LOL, how many strippers did they hire for the "parade" anyway? 100,000 folks lined up for that? Hah! Long winters eh? Btw, a friend of mine suggested the dark-haired American chickie in the lead car is actually a pr0n star.

Kate
Excluding the cross dressers, they're all pr0n stars and there were 30 of them according to the article. I think they're probably all American as well, imported for the erotica expo this weekend.
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NickD wrote:Excluding the cross dressers, they're all pr0n stars and there were 30 of them according to the article. I think they're probably all American as well, imported for the erotica expo this weekend.
Ah. I thought it was some annual local thing and not a business promo stunt. If it was a home grown fun thing for kicks during the winter then no worries but there's no need for that kind of nudity in a downtown core just to market a pr0n trade show.

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re: second part, nope: I'm stereotyping Dorn, but he stereotyped me; I claim righteous revenge! (and it's mighty righteous!) and I'm with you on the "everyone should put forth effort and no one should be crazy" point -- I'd rather have a world full of sexy groomed people than a world full of ugly disheveled people. My rants were more about illustrating an inequality than giving genuine advice.
Dorn is Australian, that's just how they are.

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MorbidKate wrote:Ah. I thought it was some annual local thing and not a business promo stunt. If it was a home grown fun thing for kicks during the winter then no worries but there's no need for that kind of nudity in a downtown core just to market a pr0n trade show.

Kate
The locals only break them out during shearing season ;)
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MorbidKate wrote:
NickD wrote:Excluding the cross dressers, they're all pr0n stars and there were 30 of them according to the article. I think they're probably all American as well, imported for the erotica expo this weekend.
Ah. I thought it was some annual local thing and not a business promo stunt. If it was a home grown fun thing for kicks during the winter then no worries but there's no need for that kind of nudity in a downtown core just to market a pr0n trade show.

Kate
It is an annual local thing. It's officially not a promo for the event and the organiser was denied permission to advertise for the event during the parade. Unofficially it's to promote the event, but he could probably be denied permission to parade if that was the official reason.

The official line is that it is to celebrate the legal ruling that a woman who bared her breasts on K'Rd (a large gay/lesbian and red light area) was acquitted of indecent exposure because woman should have the equal right to expose their chest as men in an interpretation of the Bill of Rights, thus setting precident and law.

Incidentally, when Prince Charles visited several years, a number of woman exposed their breasts to him in protest of his expressed disapproval of topless aborigine women. They got bundled away by the police, but not arrested.
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