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[dergon darkhelm]

OK ....that's just laughable...linking to a JAWA report as evidence of unbiased *anything* just makes me chuckle.


For those of you not familiar you can "News Trust" for an independent assessment:

The Jawa Report is a conservative news blog which focuses a great deal of attention on terrorist issues and how they relate to radical Islam. The site provides news stories which are given little press in the mainstream media due to the alleged "racism" and "hatemongering" some perceive by highlighting them. The Jawa Report has also been the subject of a controversial dispute with the Google news search engine over censorship which has raised questions about the nature of Google's policies towards conservative web sites. The site is frequently cited by conservative American author and news analyst Michelle Malkin on her internet blog.....

[HATEFACE]

OK ....that's just laughable...linking to a JAWA report as evidence of unbiased *anything* just makes me chuckle.


For those of you not familiar you can "News Trust" for an independent assessment:

The Jawa Report is a conservative news blog which focuses a great deal of attention on terrorist issues and how they relate to radical Islam. The site provides news stories which are given little press in the mainstream media due to the alleged "racism" and "hatemongering" some perceive by highlighting them. The Jawa Report has also been the subject of a controversial dispute with the Google news search engine over censorship which has raised questions about the nature of Google's policies towards conservative web sites. The site is frequently cited by conservative American author and news analyst Michelle Malkin on her internet blog.....

I didn't post for the purpose of unbaised reporting. - I posted the facts. The facts are - and its not just Jawa because I easily supported the same from independent news organizations in other threads - That there is a serious ploy by the Obama camp to distort, lie, and hack. The fact is you just don't like it. As far as "racism and hatemongering." Now that's laughable! Go after terrorists and all of a sudden you hate all muslims. Ha! Google is orewellian just like socialist liberals. - If not ran by the same. They censor here and they censor in China. Thems the facts, Jimmy.


Marginalize and attack. Good on you.

[Mulu]

Cipher doesn't see a conspiracy but I see a systematic manipulation of our media, government, military, and economy.

By liberals?

Ahahahahahahaha!! I knew there was a reason I liked off topic. It's the entertainment value.

[HATEFACE]

Cipher doesn't see a conspiracy but I see a systematic manipulation of our media, government, military, and economy.

By liberals?

Ahahahahahahaha!! I knew there was a reason I liked off topic. It's the entertainment value.

By socialists. i.e. progressives, yes.

[White Warlock]

it's a conspiracy i tell ya.

[Swift]

The facts are - and its not just Jawa because I easily supported the same from independent news organizations in other threads - That there is a serious ploy by the Obama camp to distort, lie, and hack.

And? Obama is a politician. Half of what makes a politician good at their job is the ability to tell straight faced lies to the entire nation.

You should know, your republican boys have been doing the same thing for 8 years. At least Obama hasn't put the US into a war

I mean, after all, we are in Iraq because of all the WMDs they didn't have

[Veilan]

I mean, after all, we are in Iraq because of all the WMDs they didn't have

After all, you are in Iraq because you lack the wisdom and experiences with war of "Old Europe". Oh... did you know that wisdom is a trait often times associated with age? Old Europe indeed.

[HATEFACE]

it's a conspiracy i tell ya.

Well, when people hack into Palin's e-mail accounts & steal her social security number, yes. . . Somehow, I think something IS up. I suppose democrats don't really believe in privacy all along and just pay lip service to the idea of no wire tapping.

And? Obama is a politician. Half of what makes a politician good at their job is the ability to tell straight faced lies to the entire nation.

Last time I checked McCain doesn't know how to use a computer. No, he knows how to use a computer but the citizens who support him would never go into Obama's e-mail, social security number, credit cards, etc. We're more morally good. And. . swift, swift, my main issue isn't with attack ads. Those are common. I guess Fight The Smears only fights Obama's smears and doesn't bother with Palin. To these new age socialists the ends always justify the means. Also thanks for admitting Obama is just another empty suited politician who lies, distorts, and steals to get what he wants the POTUS. I was starting to think the left claiming him as special and unique as legitimate. But what you're really attempting to do is justify these aggressive attacks. Thinly veiled attempt at evolving Obama from pond scum to a politician.

I'm not saying its a conspiracy, but you only see what you want to see. It seems pretty deliberate from people (linked and unlinked individuals) who are pushing a political agenda to, often aggressively so. I expected no less from socialists.

Again I am right. Moreover you might want to look at bill history from opencongress.org and see that this whole call for regulation is a complete and utter shame. The whole economic downturn was entirely preventable by republicans but attempts to correct this were killed by democrats in congress. The only way for a public to support regulation would be to create a economic disaster in which the idea would become popular. What better time then now with an unpopular president. Best bash your neanderthal heads together and yell "Bush's fault!!! Ruuuah!" so that the rest of the populace does the same. It's indocrination plain and simple. You can't deny it but you will marginalize and attempt to defame anyone who says or believes otherwise.

I mean, after all, we are in Iraq because of all the WMDs they didn't have

After all, you are in Iraq because you lack the wisdom and experiences with war of "Old Europe". Oh... did you know that wisdom is a trait often times associated with age? Old Europe indeed.

Its a common misconception that Bush lied to get into Iraq. WMDs were the main reason for entering Iraq but I guess the information garnered from europe wasn't deciminated among congress or they didn't pay attention and as such they didn't react. - Save for a scant few and the now heavily touted Obama but to say he reacted is an understatement. He didn't react, being the empty suit that he is. . .

Now in Iraq we face Al Quaeda/terrorist militants and Iranian backed groups. So the underlying reason that we are there IS terrorism and now we CANNOT lose this war. We are aided in Iraq and Afganistan by other countries who still understand this global threat and I'm thankful for that.
Defeating modern day barbarism and despotism. Now that's hope I can believe in.

[edit: inflammatory -kmj]

[Grand Fromage]

PD, have you seen a psychologist? I'm not even trying to mess with you, I'm honestly getting concerned. You were pretty normal, but you've become increasingly paranoid and delusional over the past couple years, and you're at the right age for schizophrenia to set in. You're seriously suggesting Obama and 4chan are conspiring against you--this is well beyond politics and into mental illness. You're meeting enough DSM guidelines to go in for an evaluation, anyway.

[Mulu]

Seconded, and on the post itself:

Somehow, I think something IS up. I suppose democrats don't really believe in privacy all along and just pay lip service to the idea of no wire tapping.

Have you been absent from the country since 9/11/2001? Google "Bush wire tapping" and catch up on the news.

[White Warlock]

Well, when people hack into Palin's e-mail accounts & steal her social security number, yes. . . Somehow, I think something IS up. I suppose democrats don't really believe in privacy all along and just pay lip service to the idea of no wire tapping.

The person who hacked into palin's email account was a college student, who got caught. He used a semi-anonymous routing service in the U.S. and used his own email address to advertise his actions.

If there was a 'real' attempt by the Obama campaign, they wouldn't have been so foolish as to advertise their actions using their own email account and they would have used a high anonymous proxy service situated outside of the U.S.

Seriously dude...

No, he knows how to use a computer but the citizens who support him would never go into Obama's e-mail, social security number, credit cards, etc. We're more morally good.

lol, i'm sorry... but considering the McCain campaign has posed far more lies in their ads than the Obama campaign, i can't see as how you can claim they are "more" morally good. I mean, they are lieing to the American people in those ads, and i find that to be far from morally good.

I guess Fight The Smears only fights Obama's smears and doesn't bother with Palin.

Umm, the Fight the Smears website is Obama's website.

The whole economic downturn was entirely preventable by republicans but attempts to correct this were killed by democrats in congress.

I'm sorry, but this is just plain false. From 1994 until 2000, the Republicans controlled both houses of U.S. Congress. From 2000 to 2002, the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives. From 2002 until 2006, the Republicans controlled both houses of U.S. Congress. In 2006, the Republicans lost both houses.

So, claiming the economic downturn, which started well before 2006, to be the fault of the Democrats... is just downright false.

The only way for a public to support regulation would be to create a economic disaster in which the idea would become popular. What better time then now with an unpopular president. Best bash your neanderthal heads together and yell "Bush's fault!!! Ruuuah!" so that the rest of the populace does the same. It's indocrination plain and simple. You can't deny it but you will marginalize and attempt to defame anyone who says or believes otherwise.

Umm... so you think the U.S. should continue on the path of deregulation? Am i understanding you correctly?

Its a common misconception that Bush lied to get into Iraq.

No, it's not a misconception. Sufficient evidence has been presented that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz wanted Bush to attack Iraq prior to 9/11. The evidence Bush later presented as the reason for attacking Iraq was dismissed by the United Nations (and you can argue the U.N. is against us all you want, but their dismissal of the evidence has since been corroborated). The satellite photos were old and the report from British Intelligence was already reported as false.

WMDs were the main reason for entering Iraq but I guess the information garnered from europe wasn't deciminated among congress or they didn't pay attention and as such they didn't react.

React to what? Read above.

Now in Iraq we face Al Quaeda/terrorist militants and Iranian backed groups. So the underlying reason that we are there IS terrorism and now we CANNOT lose this war.

Really... and what do you define as lose? For that matter, what do you define as win? And finally, what do you think will happen when U.S. troops pull out of Iraq and focus on Afghanistan? Yep, you guessed it... Al Qaeda militants will relocate to Afghanistan to fight U.S. troops over there.

The U.S. invasion of Iraq succeeded only in greatly increasing the amount of Jihadists. Ignorance as to why they attacked on 9/11 is further maintained by a bloodlust for revenge.

Defeating modern day barbarism and despotism. Now that's hope I can believe in.

It is essential that you understand just what it is that corporations/megacorps are doing all over the world, so you can understand just how silly your statements sound. Acting on an interest for profits over life, U.S. corporations have been exploiting third world populations for quite some time (children enslaved for the production of clothing, shoes, cocoa, textiles, etc).

As well, the U.S. government has been promoting dictatorships and monarchies over democracies. Both these facets are a direct result of the Cold War, in which the U.S. competed with U.S.S.R. for global domination. Dictatorships and monarchies were the means to control nations (and thus the reason why the U.S. trained and inserted dictators in various nations, including Iran, Iraq, and Panama).

But, i'm going on a tangent here. You do realize the U.S. trained Osama Bin Ladin, right? Claiming the 'other side' is barbaric is an easy, yet blind, claim.

[White Warlock]

Somehow, I think something IS up. I suppose democrats don't really believe in privacy all along and just pay lip service to the idea of no wire tapping.

Have you been absent from the country since 9/11/2001? Google "Bush wire tapping" and catch up on the news.

lol, didn't even see he wrote that. Wow... good catch there Mulu.

[HATEFACE]

Seconded, and on the post itself:

Somehow, I think something IS up. I suppose democrats don't really believe in privacy all along and just pay lip service to the idea of no wire tapping.

Have you been absent from the country since 9/11/2001? Google "Bush wire tapping" and catch up on the news.

That was a quip against democrats for not practicing what they preach. The whole argument boils down wire tapping is an invasion of privacy yet will resort to information digging of their own. You know. . . that whole pesky hypocrasy thing.

. . .and GF thanks for your concern but I'm begining to form a new opinion based upon what I am reading on opencongress.org.

[edit: inflammatory - kmj]

[White Warlock]

Okay, excuse me... but at what point did Off Topic become ALFA chat status? Have we abandoned all moderation of Off Topic?

[Mayhem]

burble burble

Man, its lucky this is the internet. When you mention Wiretapping (illegal wiretapping) in the VERY SAME POST as "We wouldn't hack Obama's Email because we are more morally good", there is no way you would be able to keep a straight face IRL.